[2009/08/03 18:15] Bryn Oh: (Saved Mon Aug 3 17:10:49 2009) why not?
[2009/08/03 18:16] Ducce Lykin: thought u were busy.
[2009/08/03 23:03] Ducce Lykin: are you intsalling?
[2009/08/03 23:04] Bryn Oh: just chatting
[2009/08/03 23:04] Ducce Lykin: cool
[2009/08/03 23:04] Ducce Lykin: so it took u long time to build?
[2009/08/03 23:04] Ducce Lykin: to learn i mean
[2009/08/03 23:08] Bryn Oh: well i began in my first week
[2009/08/03 23:08] Bryn Oh: and i guess 6 months
[2009/08/03 23:08] Bryn Oh: but it is the way to go
[2009/08/03 23:08] Bryn Oh: from an art perspective
[2009/08/03 23:08] Bryn Oh: if thats your interest
[2009/08/03 23:08] Ducce Lykin: has any one done an interview with you for a blog?...
[2009/08/03 23:09] Ducce Lykin: yeah that's my interest
[2009/08/03 23:09] Bryn Oh: sure tons
[2009/08/03 23:09] Ducce Lykin: how did u find out about sl
[2009/08/03 23:09] Ducce Lykin: oh okay then i won't do one lol
[2009/08/03 23:09] Bryn Oh: lol
[2009/08/03 23:09] Bryn Oh: well think of it this way ducce
[2009/08/03 23:09] Bryn Oh: in 5 years what will this medium be remember for?
[2009/08/03 23:10] Bryn Oh: it wont be remembered for jpegs on a prim
[2009/08/03 23:10] Bryn Oh: but for other things
[2009/08/03 23:10] Bryn Oh: think of it as a medium
[2009/08/03 23:10] Bryn Oh: what are its strengths
[2009/08/03 23:10] Ducce Lykin: yeah true
[2009/08/03 23:11] Ducce Lykin: what do u think is the strengths
[2009/08/03 23:11] Bryn Oh: well for me i am in a movement i call Immersiva
[2009/08/03 23:11] Bryn Oh: its where you draw ones attention away from rl
[2009/08/03 23:11] Bryn Oh: completely
[2009/08/03 23:12] Bryn Oh: but it will be far more than this
[2009/08/03 23:12] Bryn Oh: as time goes on
[2009/08/03 23:12] Bryn Oh: so for example
[2009/08/03 23:12] Bryn Oh: i am a painter in rl
[2009/08/03 23:12] Bryn Oh: my work is a 2d image on a wall
[2009/08/03 23:12] Bryn Oh: and people look at it and in some cases can be drawn into it
[2009/08/03 23:13] Bryn Oh: but sl is a painting you can go inside
[2009/08/03 23:13] Bryn Oh: and explore
[2009/08/03 23:13] Ducce Lykin: aha yes
[2009/08/03 23:13] Ducce Lykin: nice idea
[2009/08/03 23:13] Bryn Oh: the problem is
[2009/08/03 23:13] Bryn Oh: our peripheral vision
[2009/08/03 23:13] Bryn Oh: we see past the outside of our screen
[2009/08/03 23:13] Bryn Oh: and see things which draw us back into rl
[2009/08/03 23:13] Bryn Oh: such as a bill on the desk
[2009/08/03 23:13] Bryn Oh: or perhaps the phone rings
[2009/08/03 23:13] Bryn Oh: etc
[2009/08/03 23:14] Bryn Oh: they break immersion
[2009/08/03 23:14] Bryn Oh: what i will do one day
[2009/08/03 23:14] Bryn Oh: is to custom build someones fantasy
[2009/08/03 23:14] Bryn Oh: perhaps their favorite place
[2009/08/03 23:14] Bryn Oh: a beach.. their grandmothers home etc
[2009/08/03 23:15] Bryn Oh: and when they come home from work all exhausted
[2009/08/03 23:15] Bryn Oh: they can plug into this custom paradise
[2009/08/03 23:15] Bryn Oh: with rl friends or with generated ones
[2009/08/03 23:15] Bryn Oh: a custom lover perhaps
[2009/08/03 23:15] Bryn Oh: who is exactly what they find attractive
[2009/08/03 23:15] Bryn Oh: etc
[2009/08/03 23:16] Ducce Lykin: interesting
[2009/08/03 23:16] Bryn Oh: this is what the medium can do
[2009/08/03 23:16] Bryn Oh: eventually
[2009/08/03 23:18] Ducce Lykin: how did u find out about sl?
[2009/08/03 23:19] Bryn Oh: i read an article about a man who spent all his money on a condo in a place called second life... i had to see this for myself.
[2009/08/03 23:19] Ducce Lykin: hehe
[2009/08/03 23:20] Ducce Lykin: and u got immersed
[2009/08/03 23:20] Ducce Lykin: so painting is dead
[2009/08/03 23:20] Ducce Lykin: how do u get ur muted tones?
[2009/08/03 23:24] Bryn Oh: painting is not dead
[2009/08/03 23:25] Bryn Oh: its just not the best use of sl
[2009/08/03 23:25] Bryn Oh: what does it do here?
[2009/08/03 23:25] Bryn Oh: a jpeg is a very very poor substitute for a painting
[2009/08/03 23:25] Bryn Oh: and it uses none of the tools sl gives us
[2009/08/03 23:26] Ducce Lykin: aha right
[2009/08/03 23:26] Ducce Lykin: what's ur opinion on sculpties?
[2009/08/03 23:27] Bryn Oh: i dont use them but I appreciate them. I was trained in softimage.
[2009/08/03 23:27] Ducce Lykin: what is softimage?
[2009/08/03 23:27] Bryn Oh: i thought you were not doing a blog post
[2009/08/03 23:28] Ducce Lykin: lol
[2009/08/03 23:28] Ducce Lykin: just chatting
[2009/08/03 23:28] Ducce Lykin: how do i access saved chats?
[2009/08/03 23:28] Bryn Oh: i am not sure
[2009/08/03 23:28] Bryn Oh: i have not tried to do that before
[2009/08/03 23:30] Ducce Lykin: i found it
[2009/08/03 23:31] Bryn Oh: you are part of the long now foundation?
[2009/08/03 23:31] Ducce Lykin: yes
[2009/08/03 23:31] Bryn Oh: is that how you found me?
[2009/08/03 23:31] Ducce Lykin: i blog post the entire interview with andrew
[2009/08/03 23:31] Ducce Lykin: i found you through austin ellison
[2009/08/03 23:32] Ducce Lykin: i used to film me dancing on
blip.tv hehe
[2009/08/03 23:33] Ducce Lykin: that was my machina practice
[2009/08/03 23:33] Bryn Oh: ah yes i remember austin
[2009/08/03 23:34] Ducce Lykin: good
[2009/08/03 23:35] Ducce Lykin: do u see sl as an artist residency>?
[2009/08/03 23:35] Bryn Oh: i think artists stay
[2009/08/03 23:35] Bryn Oh: many come here but artists stay
[2009/08/03 23:38] Ducce Lykin: hehe
[2009/08/03 23:38] Ducce Lykin: there have been some article on artnews
[2009/08/03 23:38] Ducce Lykin: but i was disppointed in them
[2009/08/03 23:39] Ducce Lykin: i think ur work is more powerful then their conceptual sexual things
[2009/08/03 23:39] Bryn Oh: which article?
[2009/08/03 23:40] Bryn Oh: i dont know them
[2009/08/03 23:41] Ducce Lykin: i can't remember
[2009/08/03 23:42] Ducce Lykin: but their art was reallly terrible that i saw
[2009/08/03 23:42] Ducce Lykin: just suxed...i can't believe it was in artnews
[2009/08/03 23:42] Ducce Lykin: but at least art news give sl a nod
[2009/08/03 23:43] Bryn Oh: oh filthy fluno?
[2009/08/03 23:43] Bryn Oh: oh that was ny times
[2009/08/03 23:43] Ducce Lykin: there was on in artnews too
[2009/08/03 23:43] Bryn Oh: well i am not sure the article you mean or the artist
[2009/08/03 23:43] Bryn Oh: but rl publications
[2009/08/03 23:44] Bryn Oh: they dont understand sl yet
[2009/08/03 23:44] Ducce Lykin: yeah?
[2009/08/03 23:44] Bryn Oh: so when a rl reporter comes into sl
[2009/08/03 23:44] Bryn Oh: who doenst normally come here
[2009/08/03 23:44] Ducce Lykin: i know i think we understand them better and bloggers do a better job lol
[2009/08/03 23:44] Bryn Oh: they try to link rl art to what is happening
[2009/08/03 23:44] Bryn Oh: they do
[2009/08/03 23:45] Ducce Lykin: right and they don't think ahead.
[2009/08/03 23:45] Bryn Oh: they dont yet see it as its own medium
[2009/08/03 23:45] Bryn Oh: they see it as a means to market rl art
[2009/08/03 23:46] Bryn Oh: but its value is far greater than that
[2009/08/03 23:46] Bryn Oh: here look at this...
[2009/08/03 23:46] Bryn Oh: and think of the technology
[2009/08/03 23:46] Bryn Oh: and then place milo in sl
[2009/08/03 23:47] Ducce Lykin: but not all of us are as good as u to build lol
[2009/08/03 23:47] Bryn Oh: it takes work just as any other medium does
[2009/08/03 23:47] Bryn Oh: and commitment
[2009/08/03 23:48] Bryn Oh: and there are many works in sl that dont rely on technical skill
[2009/08/03 23:48] Bryn Oh: but on concept
[2009/08/03 23:48] Ducce Lykin: really wow
[2009/08/03 23:48] Ducce Lykin: i'll have to find that
[2009/08/03 23:50] Ducce Lykin: so do u get sponsor ship to build
[2009/08/03 23:50] Ducce Lykin: because the land is expensive
[2009/08/03 23:51] Bryn Oh: yes immersiva was given to me by dusan writer
[2009/08/03 23:51] Bryn Oh: pathfinder linden gave me a place for my helen keller build
[2009/08/03 23:51] Bryn Oh: which is permanent
[2009/08/03 23:51] Bryn Oh: IBM gave me a sim temporarily for the Rabbicorn story
[2009/08/03 23:52] Bryn Oh: IBM actually are becoming interested in sl art
[2009/08/03 23:52] Ducce Lykin: so if it's taken down it is destoyed?
[2009/08/03 23:52] Bryn Oh: no its in my inventory
[2009/08/03 23:52] Ducce Lykin: i hope so
[2009/08/03 23:52] Ducce Lykin: ur inventory must be massive
[2009/08/03 23:52] Bryn Oh: you can now bring them out of sl too
[2009/08/03 23:52] Bryn Oh: and into open sim
[2009/08/03 23:53] Bryn Oh: its pretty big yes lol
[2009/08/03 23:54] Ducce Lykin: omg but still it's the work installing it
[2009/08/03 23:54] Bryn Oh: yes the rabbicorn story took a month
[2009/08/03 23:54] Ducce Lykin: have u thought of making a book out of it?
[2009/08/03 23:54] Ducce Lykin: did ibm come to u?
[2009/08/03 23:54] Bryn Oh: yes that is the plan
[2009/08/03 23:54] Bryn Oh: yes IBM offered the space
[2009/08/03 23:55] Ducce Lykin: wow they hear alot about u nice
[2009/08/03 23:56] Ducce Lykin: wow a book
[2009/08/03 23:56] Ducce Lykin: here i am making book on blurb
[2009/08/03 23:56] Bryn Oh: on what?
[2009/08/03 23:57] Ducce Lykin: my photographs
[2009/08/03 23:57] Ducce Lykin: and nine paintings
[2009/08/03 23:57] Bryn Oh: nice
[2009/08/03 23:57] Bryn Oh: but have not used it yet
[2009/08/03 23:57] Bryn Oh: i have that downloaded
[2009/08/03 23:57] Ducce Lykin: i see
[2009/08/03 23:57] Ducce Lykin: u'll like it
[2009/08/03 23:58] Ducce Lykin: i been thinking about building architecture..
[2009/08/03 23:58] Ducce Lykin: that's my degree
[2009/08/03 23:58] Ducce Lykin: to do something in sl with archit
[2009/08/03 23:59] Bryn Oh: oh well then you need to meet the sl architects
[2009/08/03 23:59] Bryn Oh: scope cleaver
[2009/08/03 23:59] Bryn Oh: db bailey
[2009/08/03 23:59] Bryn Oh: keystone bouchard
[2009/08/03 23:59] Bryn Oh: those are the top ones
[2009/08/04 0:00] Ducce Lykin: okay thanks
[2009/08/04 0:00] Ducce Lykin: i do autocad
[2009/08/04 0:01] Ducce Lykin: they are too good
[2009/08/04 0:01] Ducce Lykin: i'm just begining
[2009/08/04 0:03] Ducce Lykin: geee
[2009/08/04 0:05] Bryn Oh: you just need to practice
[2009/08/04 0:05] Bryn Oh: thats all it is
[2009/08/04 0:05] Ducce Lykin: true true
[2009/08/04 0:06] Ducce Lykin: but u must have a concept before the execution no?
[2009/08/04 0:06] Ducce Lykin: how did u do it?
[2009/08/04 0:06] Bryn Oh: well i am always full of stories and ideas
[2009/08/04 0:07] Bryn Oh: so i try to make the stories into poems
[2009/08/04 0:07] Bryn Oh: then i build them
[2009/08/04 0:07] Bryn Oh: and film
[2009/08/04 0:08] Ducce Lykin: wow
[2009/08/04 0:08] Ducce Lykin: patients
[2009/08/04 0:08] Ducce Lykin: i need to find a natural way in
[2009/08/04 0:09] Bryn Oh: i need to go to bed
[2009/08/04 0:09] Bryn Oh: its late here
[2009/08/04 0:09] Ducce Lykin: okay thanks for chat
[2009/08/04 0:10] Bryn Oh: bye ducce
[2009/08/04 0:10] Ducce Lykin: bye for now
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